October Minutes
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
San Miguel ADVISORY council
Minutes
PO Box 425, San Miguel, CA California, 93451
www.sanmigueladvisorycouncil.org
MEETING TIME & DATE: 7:00 PM – OCTOBER 28, 2009
LOCATION: COMMUNITY CENTER -
(13th Street, behind Library)
I. Flag Salute – Mike Sanders
II. Roll Call – Sharon Brower
ADVIS0RY COUNCIL MEMBERS
GARY DAVIS – CHAIRMAN Present
DEBBIE LEWIS – VICE-CHAIRMAN Present
SHARON BROWER – SECRETARY Present
TOM BANISH – TREASURER Present
NOEL CARPENTER – HISTORIAN Present
DENIS DEGHER – PUBLIC RELATIONS Present
MIKE SANDERS – CSD LIAISON Present
JEAN HOFFMANN – ALTERNATE Present, not seated
III. MINUTES APPROVAL - August minutes reviewed. Denis Degher brought to the attention of the Council that under the Vice-Chairman’s report the title of sub committee should be changed to group as those parties who formed the “team” were unable to return to the Council prior to submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors outlining their concerns re: the LIH (low income housing) . That change was approved by all and was so changed. On page 3, under CHP/Sheriff motorcycles on private lands, Debbie Lewis pointed out that Sgt. Maki replied to her comment re: “a sting, on a weekend day you could get a lot of lawbreakers” with a statement that he would” get together with the CHP on that.” “No real response” removed and above added. There being no further corrections or additions the minutes were approved.
September minutes reviewed. On page 2, 2nd paragraph, throughout that paragraph the LIC team was referred to as a sub-committee. This was changed to group as discussed when reviewing the August minutes. There were no further corrections or additions and the minutes were approved.
IV. TREASURERS REPORT – Tom Banish reports that the Council has a current balance of $1104.14 in the treasury. Mr. Banish paid the rent on the Community Center in July at the $360.00 rate. This is $40.00 less than the new rents that the Lion’s Club has set. Mike Sanders reported that there was no set proposal from the Mission re: using one of their meeting rooms but he did know that it would cost $1200.00 to use the facilities for a wedding reception. Gary Davis asked again about Lillian Larsen School but no one had checked with them yet. Further discussion entailed re: staying at the Community Center for now and Sharon Brower made a motion to pay the additional $40.00 to bring us current until July 2010. Noel Carpenter seconded and the motion was approved. Mr. Banish will cut a check and present it to Mr. Sanders, (who will get it to the appropriate person in the Lions Club)
V. COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Chairman – Gary Davis reports that Elizabeth Kavanaugh will not be in attendance this evening, but Jan DiLeo is here from the County Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Davis has received a computer disc from the Planning Dept re: the Pankey Mine project. He asked if anyone wishes to review it. Sharon Brower requests to do so, as she was not on the Council when it came up before. She will try to burn copies. Denis Degher said he would like to have the disc next. The Pankey project is in process to do a new EIR. They are currently about a year out and have made some slight changes to the last submission. It appears that the area of excavation is smaller but the number of truck hauls down Mission Street would remain the same.
On November 10th the Board of Supervisors will hear the Affordable Housing Fund Annual Report and Annual Action Plan. There is also a requested amendment of Title 29 re: the Fund and an adjustment of the in-lieu fees as well as commercial housing impact fee schedules before the Board No specific time known.
Mr. Davis received a memo showing that on October 23rd the Planning Commission approved Open Space Policy OS 2.4 which prohibits application of sewage sludge and composts containing it, on open space lands in San Luis Obispo county. This was due to public health and environmental concerns.
Mr. Davis also received the agenda for the October 15th Anti-Gang Coordinating Commission Meeting. Frank Mecham is in attendance this evening and offered that he had attended the “Chair of Citizenry” program which showed a strong focus on gangs. He said the Federal Narcotics Investigators state that gangs are now moving into the rural areas where they have more autonomy without detection. He also commented on the Sheriff’s Citizen Academy, a program which he also attended, as being very beneficial to citizens wishing to understand the situation and the whole justice concept from the complaint through to the court system. This program also includes a defensive driving course. Jan Delilah also said that she went to the “Anti-Gang enforcement meeting as a representative from the Parks Dept. She said various people attend from different county departments. Per the memo it indicates that members of the Community Advisory Councils are welcome also. The next meeting is on January 21, 2010 @ 2:00 at the District Attorney’s Office. Mr. Mecham said he would arrange to have a representative from the Commission come to speak at the Advisory Council meeting. Mr. Davis encouraged him to do so.
Sharon Brower is continuing to update our Website. She states she is doing this “hit or miss” and largely self taught secondary to being unable to connect with our webmaster Amanda Rice. She has sent e-mails and left a phone message but has had no replies. She states she is a novice computer person and it is taking a long time and many mistakes to bring it current, but is willing to continue. She will continue to try to reach Ms. Rice with her concerns and questions.
CSD Liaison - Mike Sanders attended the last CSD meeting. He reports that the CSD is going to go ahead and try to purchase the land from Mr. John Grizzle (Brett’s father) which is north (?) of the current waste water plant. They are pursuing an appraisal of the site. Dale Hamblin brought up his concerns to the CSD, as he did the previous evening at the Advisory Council meeting that he felt the Council had misconstrued his words in a message Ms. Brower gave to the Planning Commission. Per Mr. Sanders he apparently chose to disregard the information that was given to him at the Advisory Council meeting that Ms. Brower was speaking as a private individual and that what she said was never a reflection of the Council’s, but hers only. Mr. Sanders said he spoke as “they, them etc. Mr. Sanders addressed his comments and assured the CSD assemblage that it was important that they continue to send a liaison to the Advisory Council meetings. He said they were in agreement that Mr. Hamblin should continue.
New fire truck – Mr. Sanders said that the CSD purchased a new fire truck last week that would be capable of assisting other fire and forestry units in fighting the seasonal wild fires. Denis Degher reports that he spoke with Fire Chief Roland Snow and that they are looking for volunteers to assist with the placing and removal of barricades for the December 19th San Miguel Christmas Parade. Noel Carpenter volunteered to spearhead the volunteers for this endeavor.
VI. PUBLIC REPORTS
CHP/Sheriff – Lieutenant Marty Maples and Sergeant Dennis Aguilar are here from the California Highway Patrol. Both officers are out of the Templeton office. After introductions the majority of the discussion was directed toward the ongoing problem with the motorcycles and quads in out town and in the river bed. Lieut. Maples stated that the problems are not just relegated to San Miguel but that Atascadero is also having a difficult time managing the on and off road vehicles. The Templeton Office is at 101 Duncan Rd, Templeton, CA 93465. Phone # (805) 434-1822 An interesting side note that Sgt. Aguilar pointed out is that the CHP no longer uses radar to manage speed control but LiDAR. Rather than broadcasting over a wide area of traffic the officer aims at an individual vehicle and receives the information that he needs, on that vehicle.
CSD – Dale Hamblin, Board Member – not present
Supervisor’s Office – Supervisor Mecham present. Office hours for San Miguel this month are on the 19th , 3:00 – 5:00 PM at CSD offices – 1150 Mission. If residents want to make an appt. they may call (805) 781-4491
San Miguel Resource Connection – Jean Hoffmann, a Council member who is also a member of The Resource Connection is giving their report. At Cal Poly on 10/30 and 10/31 there will be free Hands on Health program. Two teachers from Lillian Larsen will be presenting. Also there are free Dental and Health services available and information about them will be offered, and last, but certainly the most fun, there will be a costume contest. Please note that there is a $6.00 parking fee.
Native Daughters of the Golden West – Ms. Hoffmann, who is also a member of the Native Daughters of the Golden West, announced that on November 18th that they as well as the San Miguel Seniors will be doing their Enchilada Dinners. They are 2/$6.00, can be preordered and picked up between 3 and 6 PM at 1445 L. Street. The San Miguel Seniors ask that preorders be done by Nov. 13th and they can be picked up on Nov. 21st, between 12 noon and 4PM at the Senior Center.
IX. COUNTY PLANNING REPORT – Elizabeth Kavanaugh not present
The Planning Commission will be having a study session on November 12th on the General Plan Elements taking the five existing elements and combining them into one as well as working on the Grading and Storm Water Mgt. Element.
A hearing before the Board of Supervisors on December 8th will be on the FEIR and requested amendment to the General Plan. Brett Grizzle is here at the meeting and states they are going to ask the Board to consider a new footprint for the development. He knows that they will need to do another EIR and do some new things with it. Mr. Davis said that anyone wishing to address the Board on this project, pro or con should write their letters now and send them in so the Board has time to read them.
A. Parks and Recreation – Jan DiLeo – Ms DiLeo gave an overall presentation on parks for San Miguel. She defined the different types of parks as well as the benefits and detractions from each. She explained the funding available for purchasing land, building the park and maintaining the park. The two main fees being Impact fees; the developer pays these before the subdivision is built out. If they are not used within a specified time they may be given back to the developer. Quimby fees are paid when an individual builds a residence on a owned lot and can be used for expansion, acquisition, rehabilitation and development. Neither of these funding methods can be used for maintenance. The County will allow a 50% deduction on fees if the developer donates land for the park. Another way to fund for parks is via the grant system and once the decision is made on what kind of park or parks the community wants the county will start the grant process.
Ms. DiLeo said the best course of action would be for the Advisory Council to form a sub committee and in this case; because the Resource Connection has done work in the past, look at a combined effort to open up avenues of discussion within the town. Ms. DiLeo gave an example of a partnership park where County Parks developed the areas within the school property for soccer etc as well as restrooms with the school district maintaining the site. She said that her department looks favorably on that type of situation.
Other suggestions she had were surveys to determine what residents would like to see. i.e. passive parks vs: sports fields, tennis courts etc. She also pointed out that the County purchased the lot adjacent to the existing field behind the community center and across the street from the community park. However the remaining residence does not want to sell their lot and so there is still a large corner of the “park” that cannot be completed.
Currently she said there is approximately $11,000.00 in the kitty for San Miguel which is miniscule when you are looking at buying land and developing it.
Gary Davis wanted to know if a subdivision of 24-60 homes comes before the Planners does the developer have to pay the fees or can he/she donate the land? Laverne Buckman wanted to know if the same scenarios are happening throughout the county? Noel Carpenter asks if a development has 1000 houses does the park go in their development or can it go somewhere else in the county? And Mike Sanders wanted to know how we can get a consultant to work with us like the one she described was just approved for Nipomo? Brett Grizzle met with Butterfield (developer ?) offering to help and put in dugouts.
With so many questions it was determined to form a sub-committee. Mike Sanders and Noel Carpenter volunteered to be on the committee and will contact Jani Meyers from the Resource Connection to see if a partnership can be formed to pursue the park issue, the consultant and surveys, discussions within the community to determine need and desire.
B. Leon Tackitt – DRC2009-00013, to add a tasting room to existing winery on Von Dollen Rd. in San Miguel. APN: 019-051-022
Mr. Tackitt presented. Buildings already in place. Had originally built on a “granny” residence for mother-in-law, plus a 3 car garage. Finished work had not been done. Subsequently Mr. Tackitt and family moved into town and mother-in-law moved in to main home, leaving the vacant building. Now converting to tasting room and to use the garage for wine storage. Vineyard planted to Gewurtzwiner with recent planting of syrah. Mr. Tackitt addressed letter to all affected landowners within the vicinity and received approval from them for the tasting room. Project approved
X. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Gary Davis made a recommendation tonight to change the November meeting date to Nov.18th and to go dark in December due to the holidays. There was unanimous approval on both recommendations.
Mike Sanders had a question for the next meeting. How do we get 2 stop signs, 1) On Mission at River Rd. and 2) at the fire dept on Mission? Mike to contact Supervisor Mecham and Elizabeth Kavanaugh, Planner.
Adjourned at 9:05 PM
Oct minutes approved at Nov. 18th meeting with inclusion of Denis Degher name from Council members (inadvertently dropped) and 3rd pg, 5th para, line 8; typo – changed from liar to LiDAR.
